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Casey Anthony: Defense Motions Granted…Could Cost Taxpayers $17,000

January 25, 2011

Judge Belvin Perry granted two defense motions in the case against accused murderer Casey Anthony yesterday that could cost taxpayers up to $17,000! Whew!

From the Orlando Sentinel:

The Casey Anthony defense succeeded in getting a new infusion of state funding today to help with ongoing, pre-trial investigative costs and penalty-phase investigative costs in the first-degree murder case.

Chief Judge Belvin Perry granted a $5,000 cap for expenses related to penalty-phase work. That investigative work deals with tracking down and interviewing witnesses who can help “mitigate” the state’s case should Casey Anthony be convicted and face the death penalty.

In the end, Perry granted the 300 hours, which includes 106.2 hours already worked, in the interest of justice and getting the case prepared for trial in May, he said

The approval of 300 hours of investigative time is worth about $12,000.

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Casey Anthony Pleads Guilty to All 13 Counts in Check Fraud Case

January 25, 2010

Please note that this post is from 2010. For the most current updates on the Casey Anthony trial, please see my homepage.

Well…finally some news!

Casey Anthony pleaded guilty to all 13 counts in her check fraud case this morning.

Credit: CNN

Judge Stan Strickland accepted the plea deal and sentenced her to 412 days (time served) and also gave her one year’s supervised probation.

She will remain jailed on a charge of first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

It seems that Casey was also in tears and apologized to Amy Huizenga. Haven’t seen any video yet, but I did see a few photos and I’m sure we will see video throughout the day!

OK…let’s hear your thoughts! 🙂

From CNN:

Anthony admitted stealing a checkbook from a friend, Amy Huizenga, and writing five checks worth $644.25. She wiped tears from her eyes as she spoke briefly in court.

“I just wanted to let everyone know that I’m sorry for what I did,” she said. “I take complete and full responsibility for my actions, and I’d like to apologize to Amy. I wish I’d been a better friend.

Attorney Jose Baez asked the court to give Anthony credit for time served and place her on probation in the check case. The judge agreed that Anthony already has spent more time in jail than any sentence she could receive in the check case.

Anthony has made full restitution, Baez said. Before her arrest, she had no prior criminal record, he added.

From the New York Times:

Casey Anthony, the Florida mother charged with killing her toddler daughter, was found guilty of check fraud Monday and sentenced to time served in jail.

Anthony, 23, was accused of going on a spending spree during the summer of 2008 — around the time her daughter disappeared — after she found the checks while borrowing a former friend’s car. Anthony started to cry as she apologized for using the checks.

”I just want everyone to know I’m sorry for what I did,” Anthony told the judge. ”I take complete and full responsibility for my actions.”

From WESH:

Judge Stan Strickland asked Anthony several questions, ensuring she was aware of what entering the plea meant — that is waiving the right to trial.

Her parents, George and Cindy Anthony, held hands in the courtroom while the plea was entered.

Jose Baez, Anthony’s attorney, asked for “equal justice” for his client, and asked for a one year probation and credit for time served.Strickland sentenced the 23-year-old to jail time served and $5,517.75 in court costs.In a rare moment, a teary Anthony addressed the court.

“I’m sorry for what I did. I’d like to sincerely apologize to Amy. I wish I would have been a better friend,” she said.

Casey Anthony: Roy Kronk Should Be a Suspect

January 25, 2010

Attorneys for Casey Anthony, who is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee, want to interview the ex-wife of Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found the little girl’s body.

Haven’t we heard this one before? I swear that we have 🙂

Just as a devil’s advocate, can you imagine the reaction from those in the media, and the blogosphere, if Casey Anthony did not commit this crime? I think that most are fairly if not absolutely certain, that Casey Anthony killed little Caylee.

But just think of the comments you’d see online if she didn’t. Sorry…just was thinking outloud 🙂

Thoughts?

From the Associated Press:

Attorneys for Casey Anthony are asking a judge Monday to let them depose the wife of Roy Kronk. He found the body of 2-year-old Caylee Anthony in woods near her home in December 2008.

Casey Anthony’s attorneys say Kronk’s ex-wife is offering testimony that supports the contention that Kronk should be a suspect. Detectives have said repeatedly that Kronk is not a suspect and that the evidence points to Casey Anthony.

Casey Anthony: Court Date Today Could Have Important Ramifications

January 25, 2010

Casey Anthony will be back in court today and rumor has it that she could be taking a plea deal in the check fraud case.

A hearing regarding both the check fraud and murder cases against her will take place this afternoon at 1:30 p.m. (ET).

From the Orlando Sentinel:

Casey Anthony could walk away from today’s hearing a convicted felon. Or there may not be a resolution to the check-fraud charges she faces.

It’s unclear what exactly will happen when the 23-year-old appears in court at 1:30 p.m. today.

One possibility is Anthony could take a plea deal, but prosecutors and Anthony’s defense attorneys are not talking.

The accused child-killer is facing several charges in an unrelated check-fraud case.

Anthony is accused of stealing hundreds of dollars from former friend Amy Huizenga during the time her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Marie, was missing and likely dead in 2008.

Casey Anthony: Details Surrounding George Anthony’s Suicide Attempt

January 25, 2009

This is a VERY long post but it’s the full transcript from the January 23 episode of “On the Record” with Greta Van Susteren featuring in depth information about George Anthony’s suicide attempt this past week.

There is a lot of  interesting dialogue in this interview and I know that we typically have a very lively discussion so please feel free to live your thoughts/comments.

From Fox News:

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: This is a “FOX News Alert.” Caylee Anthony’s grandfather has been involuntarily committed to a hospital because he threatened to kill himself. It is also being reported he wrote a five-page suicide note.

Here is what we know. The father of accused killer Casey Anthony failed to show up yesterday at 4:00 PM for a meeting with his wife, Cindy, and lawyer, Brad Conway. Then almost seven hours later, at 10:45 PM, George begins to send text messages to his wife, Cindy, with the alarming message that he wants to kill himself. The police are called. Then early this morning about 2:00 AM, Anthony is found alive in a motel in Daytona Beach. Now he’s been involuntarily hospitalized.

Cindy and George Anthony’s lawyer, Brad Conway, joins us by phone. Brad, how is your client, George Anthony, this evening?

BRAD CONWAY, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY: Greta, George is alive, and he’s in good care. Emotionally, of course, he’s having a very difficult time and has for many months now.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, he has been involuntarily committed, so is there an end point on this one, he can walk out of the hospital? Because he can’t walk out tonight, right?

CONWAY: No, Greta, he can’t walk out tonight, and he’s not ready to walk out. He knows that. But I will tell you that the Daytona Beach Police Department gave George two options. They would take him out and involuntarily commit him, or he could go willingly, and George went willingly.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where — how far is this motel where he was found from the Anthony home?

CONWAY: It’s a matter of miles. It’s over on the beach and — which is probably I’m going to say four or five miles from the Daytona — the International Speedway.

VAN SUSTEREN: And tonight, you are at — you’re visiting your client, and his wife Cindy is there, as well?

CONWAY: Yes, Greta, that’s correct.

VAN SUSTEREN: What is George saying about this five-page suicide note? I mean, oftentimes, it’s sort of a cry for help — or I mean, what’s going on with him?

CONWAY: Greta, it was not a five-page suicide note. And although we did not get into the details, I know that George started to write a letter. And we don’t have copies of that letter yet. That’s in the hands of the Orange County sheriff’s office or the Daytona Beach Police Department, and we don’t have that yet. But George was…

VAN SUSTEREN: Go ahead.

CONWAY: George is — he misses his little girl. He misses Caylee and has had a very hard time dealing with that loss.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you and I discussed last week when — when we were down in Orlando, I mean, sort of how complicated this is for the lawyer because you’ve — on the one hand, you’ve got to do the legal business, but there’s so many collateral issues, including the pain of these grandparents, who have not been accused of doing anything wrong to that grandchild. It’s a terrible situation for them, isn’t it.

CONWAY: It is the worst situation that you can imagine. And they are doing the best that they can. But you know, try to put yourself in shoes like this, and you just can’t. You just cannot imagine a situation where your only daughter is charged with the murder — first-degree murder of your only granddaughter. And they raised and took care of Caylee Marie as though she was their own.

VAN SUSTEREN: Back up for me. Yesterday afternoon about 4:00 PM, you were supposed to meet with George and Cindy. Did you go over to the house and George just wasn’t there? Is that how the day started — or the — you know, the events started?

CONWAY: Yes. George was supposed to be there. And I myself was a little bit late. I got there, we waited for George, and then we just continued. And nothing seemed out of place. It wasn’t until we had done – – we had finished talking and George still wasn’t there, and at that point, we started to get worried because he hadn’t returned text messages or phone calls.

VAN SUSTEREN: About what time was that — what time did you arrive and about what time did, all of a sudden, your concern heighten, did Cindy’s concern heighten?

CONWAY: I arrived at the Anthonys’ about 4:30, and about 8:30, both of us really became concerned because we weren’t hearing back from him. And after that, Cindy noticed that a couple of photos had been taken and some medication was missing.

VAN SUSTEREN: What medication was taken?

CONWAY: Greta, you know, I’m going to — I think it’s enough for people to know that the medication was taken and George had consumed some alcohol with that medication. But I don’t want to get into the exact medications just out of respect for my client.

VAN SUSTEREN: Pictures that were missing, were they of his daughter, his granddaughter or both?

CONWAY: Of his wife, daughter and Caylee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where did Cindy think — up until about 8:00 o’clock, where did she think that George had gone?

CONWAY: George had gone to a job fair. He was looking for a job and was unsuccessful in getting a job. And that is, in part — well, in great part due to the negative media exposure that he’s gotten from certain stations and certain reporters.

VAN SUSTEREN: What’s George’s occupation? Or what kind of work is he looking for?

CONWAY: Security. He is formerly in law enforcement and had been a security guard for a number of years.

VAN SUSTEREN: Any idea why he picked to drive to Daytona?

CONWAY: No. That was something that was unexpected. We thought that he would be somewhere in Orange County, and that’s where we initially started looking. And it was — and I want to make sure that the proper applause and accommodation (ph) go to the Orange County sheriff’s office and the Volusia County sheriff’s office, as well as the Daytona Beach Police Department and Chief Chitwood, because John Allen — Sergeant John Allen was out at the Anthony home within 30 minutes of me calling him. And they were extremely professional. They worked incredibly well as a team. And if it weren’t for them, this might have been a terribly, terribly wrong outcome.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you called 911 sometime about 10:45. But leading up to your 10:45 911 call, what were the text messages that were sent from George?

CONWAY: The text messages that were sent — and like the medication, I don’t want to get into the specific wording just out of respect and privacy for my client. But they were — they were — the wording was enough to cause me great concern and Cindy great concern and indicated that he was despondent and did not know how to deal with what he was going through.

VAN SUSTEREN: I take it because you had to call the police that he didn’t identify where he was, that you had to make some — they had to make some effort to track him down.

CONWAY: We had no idea where George was, and Sergeant Allen and his team were able to locate George with his cell phone and…

VAN SUSTEREN: By pinging?

CONWAY: … By the cell phone towers. Yes, ma’am.

VAN SUSTEREN: And had you asked in the text message, George, where are you, and he just wouldn’t tell you?

CONWAY: Yes, we did. We were trying to find out where he was, we were trying to get him to call us, and he would not do that.

VAN SUSTEREN: So I guess the good news on a very bad news story — and I know that you have to go back in with him and with Cindy — is that he’s fine, I mean, as fine as someone can be under the circumstances, and at least he will have to deal with the next couple of days, maybe can work things out a little bit better for him. Brad, thank you. And good luck.

CONWAY: You’re welcome, Greta. Thank you.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you just heard from Brad Conway, Cindy and George Anthony’s lawyer. Yesterday, Brad was the one, as he just noted, who called 911 to report that George was missing.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: 911, what is your emergency?

CONWAY: Hi. I’m George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CONWAY: George Anthony has been gone since 8:30 this morning, and he has taken several bottles of medication from his house, as well as some pictures. And what worries us is that something is — he’s done something to himself.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CONWAY: John Allen advised that I call 911 right away and get a deputy over here to take a report. And that’s Sergeant John Allen with the Orange County sheriff’s office.

911 OPERATOR: Now, OK, you said he had a couple bottles of medication?

CONWAY: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: Do you know what kind of medication that was?

CONWAY: (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. Are any weapons missing?

CONWAY: No.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

CONWAY: But — but he had a weapon that was confiscated, so…

911 OPERATOR: OK, but nothing that he had on his person or in the house, correct? I just want to verify.

CONWAY: No, no, no.

911 OPERATOR: OK.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

VAN SUSTEREN: WOFL reporter Patrick Pegues joins us live in front of Halifax Medical Center, where George Anthony is being treated. Patrick, what can you tell me about — can you fill in any details about how long George was at that motel before the police arrived?

PATRICK PEGUES, WOFL: Well, investigators with Daytona Beach police believe that he checked in around 7:00 o’clock yesterday evening, but it wasn’t until about 1:00 o’clock when they were able to track him down. As you’ve been talking about, they used a GPS and cell phone tower pings to track him down within around a 2-and-a-half mile radius of the cell phone tower.

Then police just started fanning out, Daytona Beach police, as well as Orange County sheriff’s deputies, who actually came out in their SWAT and tactical gear because when they issued their BOLO, which is a “be on the lookout” command out here, they believed that George Anthony may have been armed. So Orange County deputies showed up in their tactical gear, although Daytona Beach police were just in regular patrol cars.

And they eventually spotted his vehicle in the parking lot of a motel here in an area of town called the Ridgewood Corridor (ph). At least, that’s how the police describe it. They saw his car right in the first parking space. So that’s when they decided to gather up there and figure out what to do next. And basically, the police chief and several other officers just went up and knocked on George Anthony’s door.

VAN SUSTEREN: And was he responsive? I mean, there was some medicine missing, a suggestion of some alcohol. Had he actually been drinking and taking the medication? Was he agreeable to go with them?

PEGUES: Well, I’ll start with what you just asked, the last question. And really, no. When police chief Mike Chitwood knocked on the door, he says George Anthony recognized him. Chief Chitwood is often in the news here for some of the things he says and some of the things that he does, so George Anthony was familiar with him.

He said, you know, Hey, I needed to get away. I needed to think. I needed to clear my head. I’m fine. You guys can leave. Well, because police can’t just do that when they get a 911 call like this for someone that is considered to be missing and endangered because of the fact that they have these medications, that they’re possibly armed, so police chief Mike Chitwood and another lieutenant, they spoke with George Anthony for quite some time, trying to convince him to go to the hospital, not really giving him any choice. They didn’t force him to leave, but they really wanted to let him know that he needed to be evaluated because they were concerned about him, that his family was concerned about him based on some of the text messages that they had been receiving.

So they were able to convince him to go to the hospital, but he would only go in Chief Chitwood’s car. So they loaded him up in his car, and then they came here to the hospital, brought him to the emergency room. We’ve since learned that he’s been moved to a regular room, but will have to remain here under Florida’s Baker Act law for at least the next 72 hours.

VAN SUSTEREN: Patrick, thank you.

“On the Record” is on the ground in Florida. Earlier, our producer Justin Wells (ph) spoke with the owner of the Hawaii Motel in Daytona where George Anthony was found.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My wife said he was just a normal guy, you know, well dressed and everything, you know, and asked about how the weather was and where the pizza place was, a nice pizza place you can go to, you know? He just gave a normal, you know, conversation and everything, nothing — nothing out of the ordinary. Everything was normal.

JUSTIN WELLS, “ON THE RECORD” PRODUCER: Did he say why he was here at all, or no?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, he was just didn’t want to travel all the way back to Orlando today — yesterday night, I mean. And then he said he had something he wanted to do here at this point (ph).

WELLS: Were you guys alerted when the police came at all, or did they just show up all of a sudden?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The police came and then they wanted the key to open the room. So they actually took the key (INAUDIBLE). They wanted to see who owned the car. And then (INAUDIBLE) car again, this is the guy they wanted. So that’s all I know is that they went to the room, and the guy must have — he must have opened up the room, and so then they talked him into going to the hospital.

WELLS: George Anthony came late in the afternoon, and he came, he got his keys, and he checked in, went into room 106. When he got inside, he came in. And obviously, it’s pretty much a typical motel room. You’ve got a queen-size bed, pretty empty, pretty basic hotel room, phone, all of that. And then from his bed looking out at the window, his car was probably right out there.

From here, it was just a knock at the door early in the morning. He looked out, and there were police.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VAN SUSTEREN: Up next: We are watching the hospital where George Anthony is being held and treated. George is being kept involuntarily. How is this possible? Will George literally be stopped if he tries to leave the hospital tonight? We’re going to tell you and bring you any breaking developments as they come in to FOX.

Plus, there is breaking news out of the Bahamas tonight. This is very sick, an alleged extortion plot arising out of the tragic death of John Travolta’s son. You’re going to go live to the Bahamas for the very latest on that story.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VAN SUSTEREN: Just when you thought the Caylee Anthony murder case could not get more bizarre or more tragic, it has, the murdered toddler’s grandfather, George, involuntarily hospitalized after threatening to kill himself. Now, how long can the hospital hold George Anthony against his will?

Orlando defense attorney Diana Tennis joins us live. Diana, people in this country are able to walk freely, except sometimes they get involuntarily committed, but that can’t last forever. What’s the law in Florida?

DIANA TENNIS, FLORIDA DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, the Baker Act refers to a Florida law that is a little complicated, so let me break it down. This is a law that goes into effect any time somebody is in extreme psychiatric crisis, and it can refer to somebody who turns themself into a hospital or is involuntarily committed, taken against their will to a hospital. And it gives the hospitals an authority under the law to keep you for as long as it takes that you’re not a danger to yourself or others.

Now, there are limits. There are very serious limits to this because, obviously, we don’t want people who are not accused of crimes being held against their will in hospitals. In this situation, it appears to me that Mr. Anthony probably went in under his own steam, probably signed himself in, and so he would be what we’d call a voluntary commitment. That means that at any time, he can revoke his consent to be there, and the hospital would have 24 hours to either release him or get a judge to say they can hold him.

If he were taken in by law enforcement against his will, the hospital would have 72 hours to hold him, and at that point, they’d have to get a court order to hold him longer. In my experience, doctors would typically see a patient brought in under either circumstance within 12 hours maximum, and it would be very common for people to be let out within a day, a day- and-a-half, even if they’re involuntarily committed, because they really are supposed to do the least restrictive thing possible.

It’s my assessment, given everything that we’ve heard, that Mr. Anthony is probably there voluntarily still, and that if he wanted to leave, they would probably let him leave and that they have made an agreement, patient to doctor, that it’s probably best for him for some period of time to get care and treatment, perhaps medication, and to try to deal with some of the stress that he’s under, under a therapeutic setting.

VAN SUSTEREN: Boy, the enormity of the stress on this man — I mean, his daughter’s in jail for murdering, allegedly, his granddaughter. He apparently can’t get a job. And this has been hanging over since at least last July, maybe going back as far as June.

Now, if he has gone there voluntarily — and I suspect he was, too, now that I think about it, because, you know, he has a note, but apparently, you know, he didn’t slit his wrists, he didn’t, you know, take any sort of additional steps that we know about, although there’s some suggestion of alcohol and medicine. He could walk out tonight, right? I mean (INAUDIBLE) they’re not going to rush off and lock him up if he says, I’m fine, you know, this was just a — you know, it was stupid what I did, but I’m out of here.

TENNIS: I totally agree with you. I mean, the only indication of medication that I’ve heard of, it was maybe a blood pressure medication. He’s there with some beer. There’s no weapons. He’s ex-law enforcement. I think if he had kind of come to his senses and wanted to talk himself out of that hospital, he probably could.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Diana. Stand by because we have more with you.

Coming up, the lies of Casey Anthony exposed. Casey told investigators she worked for Universal Studios. So what happened when law enforcement actually took Casey to Universal? We know, and you will, too. We will tell you coming up.

Casey Anthony: Baez Requests More Information About Ricardo Morales

January 25, 2009

Jose Baez filed a motion late Friday afternoon seeking more information about Casey Anthony’s ex-boyfriend, Ricardo Morales.

From Fox News:

Baez wants prosecutors’ information about ex-boyfriend Ricardo Morales, who has been questioned by detectives at least twice. The ex-boyfriend allegedly posted a picture on MySpace that showed a man and woman with the title “win her over with chloroform.”

Morales told detectives he posted the picture on his MySpace page around the beginning of 2008, before someone searched for “chloroform” Anthony’s home computer.

On Friday, Caylee’s grandfather George Anthony was found at a motel in Volusia County, Fla., with a suicide note after disappearing a day earlier. Family attorney Brad Conway said in a 911 call released Friday that Anthony left home with several bottles of medication and some photographs.

“We’re worried that he’s done something to himself,” Conway told the dispatcher.

Casey Anthony: Does Media Coverage Erase Innocent Until Proven Guilty?

January 25, 2009

Interesting article out of Canada today which discuss the belief that in the United States you are “innocent until proven guilty”. Examples of recent cases “tried in the media” are Casey Anthony, Rod Blagojevich and OJ Simpson.

What do you think? With the abundance of evidence against Casey, should she still be considered innocent until proven guilty? What is the media and blogospheres role in her trial? Thoughts?

From DigitalJournal.com:

With high profile cases, like that of Casey Anthony who is being held for trial on a charge of killing her two-year-old daughter in Florida, issues concerning presumption of innocence become part of the debate.

The press continues to bring out salient details on the Anthony case. The very idea of a mother killing her own child is such a cultural taboo that it stimulates curiosity. Some folks hearing what facts have been brought out in the media have already made up their minds that the mother, Casey Anthony, is guilty of killing her daughter, Caylee. Still the legal definitions and concerns about the case need focus at all times during the public assessment of any case.

O.J. Simpson, for example, was tried in the press repeatedly both before, during and after his high profile trial. Again that’s because of the unique nature of the crime for which he was being held responsible and his particular place as a famous person. That’s when the issues of presumption of innocence come up, just like in the case of Anthony, when there are high profile cases that pique public curiosity.

The legal definition on presumption of innocence is spelled out by the legal community as this:

The indictment or formal charge against any person is not evidence of guilt. Indeed, the person is presumed by the law to be innocent. The law does not require a person to prove his innocence or produce any evidence at all. The Government has the burden of proving a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and if it fails to do so the person is (so far as the law is concerned) not guilty.

The establishment of presumption of innocence was underlined out in the courts with case law. This is what has been noted in some of the more liberal websites devoted to law and politics.

“It is better than 5, 10, 20, or 100 guilty men go free than for one innocent man to be put to death. This principle is embodied in the presumption of innocence. In 1895, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a decision in the case Coffin v. United States, 156 U.S. 432; 15 S. Ct. 394, traced the presumption of innocence, past England, Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, and, at least according to Greenleaf, to Deuteronomy.”

They go on to relate the key elements of the Coffin case as substantiating the presumption of innocence with a major court decision.

This statement looks clear enough on the surface, but there are divergent views about what presumption of innocence is and isn’t. One writer underlines the fact that presumption of innocence is not stated explicitly in the Constitution but is part of English common law and the Fourth and part of the Fifteenth Amendments. There it is said that a person is presumed by law to be innocent until proven guilty. The writer, Blaine Kinsey, maintains that this does not mean that there should be no public discourse. He states,

The presumption of innocence is not a mandate that is imposed on all social discourse. It is not logical to assert, as a statement of fact, that a person is innocent until he/she has been proven to be guilty because it is possible for an innocent person to be convicted of a crime and it is possible for a guilty person to be acquitted of a crime.”

Both the Rod Blagojevich and Casey Anthony cases have been used to discuss the presumption of innocence, which Kinsey declares can be part of public discourse and not violate the standards of innocence. He goes on to write “

A person should not be considered guilty in the court of public opinion just because he/she has been accused of, or indicted for, a crime, but it is permissible for people to form opinions based on the information that is available to the public. “

Kinsey admits to being a member of the ACLU and retired as a Social Security claims examiner, so he isn’t an attorney. He does, however, express an opinion that is often used to dialogue about criminal cases and reflects the point of view of some of those who do so. Using his notions, it would appear reasonable to discuss cases but not presume guilt, if one is part of the process of decision-making, in either criminal or civil cases.

One source reflects the importance of folks not making up their minds until all the facts are in, even though discussion of the case may be reasonable, if we take Kinsey as a standard for discussion. This source reminds us to remember the three Duke lacrosse team players who were indicated for rape during the spring of 2006 by Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong. Nancy Grace decided to make a firm statement about this on CNN proclaiming guilt of the young men before trial when she said, “I’m so glad they didn’t miss a lacrosse game over a little thing like gang rape.”