Casey Anthony: Newly Released Documents Analysis “On The Record”
This is a full transcript from the February 18 episode of “On the Record” with Greta Van Susteren featuring in-depth analysis of the newly released documents in the Casey Anthony case.
There is some interesting dialogue in this interview between Van Susteren and those involved in the case and I know that we typically have a very lively discussion so please feel free to live your thoughts/comments.
As I said on a previous post, we’ve seen the crime scene photos as well as all the other evidence.
Will this be enough to convict Casey?
From Fox News:
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: In my hands I’m holding hundreds of pages of newly released documents in the Caylee Anthony murder case, the contents disturbing at best.
There’s new information about specific clues found at the scene where Caylee’s duct-taped skull was found, and that’s just the beginning. Joining us live is Adam Longo, reporter for WKMG Radio.
Tell me, Adam, what do these new documents show?
ADAM LONGO, REPORTER, WKMG RADIO: Greta, there are several things that these documents point out, namely there’s talk about duct tape that was found wrapped around little Caylee’s skull. Apparently the authorities have been able to match that same brand of duct tape to a piece of duct tape found in the Anthony home.
Of course, it’s not absolutely conclusive if this is the exact same duct tape, that according to defense sources tonight.
We call also tell you that there’s information in these hundreds of pages of documents about a friend of Casey Anthony’s. There’s also new information about the meter reader who found Caylee’s body in December.
Apparently back in August he reported to friends of his that he was standing with, that hey guys, look other there, it looks like a skull. And then two days later a deputy came out and said “Mr. Kronk, we think you’re wasting the county’s time.”
And then, of course, it was four months later when he did actually make that discovery.
So in going through all these documents today, we did find that there is a big effort on the part of law enforcement to try to trace items found at the crime scene there when Caylee’s body was found and try to trace them back to times recovered at the Anthony home that was searched twice, once just later that day after the remains were discovered. Greta?
VAN SUSTEREN: Has there been any response from the defense team after this latest document dump? The public does, under Florida law, get to see this, but have they responded to these documents?
LONGO: Right. And, actually, for the first time, we’ve seen a concerted effort by the part of the defense to reach out and try to talk about some of this discovery that was released today.
They are calling it, quote, a lot of the forensic tests that are contained in here, they’re calling it “junk science,” and they’re also saying it’s very important to point out that nobody’s fingerprints were found on the duct tape that was recovered that was wrapped around Caylee’s skull. They say that there’s much to be learned from what’s in these documents, and also what’s not in them.
VAN SUSTEREN: You say that there’s no finger prints on the duct tape. There’s rather one unfortunate piece of information for the defense on that, and on the duct tape around the babe’s skull was an imprint from a heart-shaped sticker.
VAN SUSTEREN: And according to another document I have, when they searched the home of Caylee Anthony, they found a sheet of multicolored heart-shaped stickers which had been cut in half. So it’s not like these stickers were remote to the child.
LONGO: Right. The defense is pointing out tonight, though, that the heart sticker found at the crime scene is not the same as the sheet of stickers that was found at the Anthony home.
Also, if you look, there are two c.d.’s that were handed out to us today from the clerk’s office containing some 700 pictures.
And while there might have been an impression of the heart shape on the duct tape they’re saying was wrapped around Caylee’s mouth, the sticker was actually not fixed to any duct tape. It was found attached to a piece of cardboard. There is a photo of that there at the scene.
And, again, defense sources are saying that’s not the same sticker as any of the stickers that were recovered from inside the Anthony family home.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any idea how Casey Anthony is doing in jail?
LONGO: The jail will not release certain things about her emotional state or how she is doing, as you put it.
But we have learned, again from this discovery today, apparently on the day when it was discovered that her remains were located and when she was notified, she apparently had some sort of nervous breakdown there in jail and had to be medicated. And that’s really the last we’ve heard anything about her emotional condition behind bars.
VAN SUSTEREN: I don’t think we could read anything into it. That could be a sign of a guilty person getting caught or an innocent person being stunned by the shock of finding a child murdered, right?
LONGO: And that’s for the analysts to say, not for me.
VAN SUSTEREN: That’s the least of her problems. It’s more the forensic evidence that may come back to haunt her and give her lots of problems.
Adam, thank you.
Former LAPD homicide detective Mark Fuhrman joins us live. Mark, have you looked through any of these documents, and your thoughts?
MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: I have. And I thought it was insightful, some of the comments that the reporter made and yourself.
The one thing that stands out for me is there is one thing that is very hard to have a coincidence-that cloth laundry bag that was found at the scene was a certain brand. It had a brand tag inside, it was cloth, and it was inside of a black plastic bag, which, obviously Caylee Anthony was inside, or her remains.
Inside the Anthony home in the laundry room there was the same brand, same type, size, color cloth bag that was inside of a black plastic bag, supposedly to be used for laundry.
Now, there is such a flow of this investigation. Let’s not forget that on June 16th, that is when Casey Anthony actually backed her car into the garage, and that is also the day that she borrowed a shovel.
And all these items we’re seeing recovered and identified in the Anthony home are coming from the Anthony home and in a certain area that we know Casey Anthony was not only at, but she borrowed a shovel from the neighbor.
VAN SUSTEREN: The defense will, and I’ve done this myself, when you’re trying to poke holes in the prosecution’s case, which is the job of the defense lawyer, talks about that these are just coincidences.
The problem is, though, is that when you have so many coincidences that it’s really hard not to — it’s a problem. You have the duct tape coincidence. You have the laundry bag coincidence. You have the sticker coincidence. You have the lies, no concern, not reporting the child.
That’s the problem. If it was just one thing, Casey wouldn’t have such a problem. But the problem is there are so many things.
FUHRMAN: Greta, and the biggest problem that the defense has is the lie that Casey Anthony comes up with, was Zenaida Gonzalez.
Some of these things can be a coincidence, but when you put all the blame onto your nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez, who was fictitious in her role as the nanny for Casey Anthony taking care of Caylee, and then having that person never be at the Anthony home yet acquire all these items that they’re finding inside the Anthony home in an innocent state, and then finding them at the location of the final resting place of Caylee Anthony.
But I want to say that the Orange County sheriff’s department has identified three crime scenes. One is the Anthony home, where they believe and I believe that that’s where the homicide occurred. That is where the first disposal of the body either went from that home or in a close vicinity of that home.
And then the final resting place was, of course, in some period before the 27th when the car was dumped, that the decomposing body of Caylee was put in the car, and that evidence was left in the car.
So all these problems, the defense doesn’t just have one crime scene problem that Casey’s connected with, or even two. They have three.
And I would agree with you. The coincidence starts becoming not only not believable, it starts creating the motion picture of a murder, and I think that’s what we have in this case.
VAN SUSTEREN: And I imagine having to explain all of them away.
But the other thing too is that her parents will also be called to the witness stand, and they have some information that no doubt is going to be — go ahead.
FUHRMAN: Greta, when you bring up Cindy Anthony and their testimony. When they did the search warrant in December, about a week after the discovery of Caylee Anthony’s remains, they were looking for certain items that they were trying to identify things from the Anthony home.
And one was a Winnie the Pooh blanket that was supposedly found at the scene that had been faded from the weather. And Cindy Anthony had made a spontaneous exclamation that we’re missing a Winnie the Pooh blanket of Caylee’s.
Now, that doesn’t get any better for testimony than that. They are not asking-they make a statement of what they’re looking for, and she states it’s missing. I think that’s another powerful pieces of evidence.
VAN SUSTEREN: Mark, thank you.
FUHRMAN: Thanks, Greta.
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