Is It Time for Joe Paterno to Go?

It has been a very interesting time in college football this week. Not because of the “Game of the Century” between Alabama and LSU. Not because of the BCS controversies with who should be #3, #4, #5 etc… Not because of the great Heisman Trophy debate between Andrew Luck and Trent Richardson (among others).

No, the talk of college football this week is the sudden and saddening turn of events in Happy Valley with Penn State University. As most of you know, the University has  had its football program turned upside down this week with allegations of sexual abuse taking place over a number of years, with a member of the coaching staff involved and others knowing about it.

Joe Paterno

Former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky is at the center of the scandal. Penn State senior vice president Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley have already surrendered on charges that they failed to alert police to the complaint about Sandusky. Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly has stated that Joe Paterno is not a target of their investigation into how the school handled the accusations but she didn’t say the same for university president Graham Spanier.

The question remains: how much was known and who else should take the fall? A lot of people are calling for Paterno’s resignation. So…is it time for Paterno to go? I’ve been a fan of Penn State football since I was probably 6 or 7 years old. I always looked up to Paterno as one of the greatest coaches of all time. Now his legacy is in question and in my eyes, he holds at least some of the responsibility.

Paterno’s weekly news conference, which was to take place today, has been canceled. It had been scheduled for noon (ET) where he would meet with members of the media, as he does every week. No reason has been given for the cancellation, but one can only speculate that the session would have been dominated about questions surrounding the sex scandal.

Did Paterno do all that he could? Should he be held legally responsible…or morally responsible?

From the Associated Press:

The Pennsylvania state police commissioner said Paterno fulfilled his legal requirement when he relayed to university administrators that a graduate assistant had seen Sandusky attacking a young boy in the team’s locker-room shower in 2002. But the commissioner also questioned whether Paterno had a moral responsibility to do more.

Jerry Sandusky: Credit AP

I’m sure that more will come out in the coming weeks but for now the question remains: Is it time for Joe to go? He’s 84 years old and has coached the team for 46 years. Until last week, his legacy would have been that he could arguably be the greatest college football coach who ever lived. Now…who knows?

Thoughts?

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28 Comments on “Is It Time for Joe Paterno to Go?”

  1. zelda Says:

    Yes it’s a sad story and even sadder is that it’s an old story.Nothing new in the abuse angle it’s just that sometimes the offenders get caught as in this case.Many NEVER do………..
    I am not sure how I feel at this point. If Paterno knew anything at any time about this then I think by all means he should take the hit and well deserved great coach or not.We can’t make untouchable gods of these men . The horror of rape to young boys is beyond description.
    These sick bastards that do the deed need to be throttled.What is it that makes these predators such a huge number? Are all the cub scout leaders , coaches, priests . teachers etc. etc. pedophiles?It rattles our sensibilities as parents and non parents to be hit with this kind of news at what seems a breakneck pace these days.
    It’s one of the lowest rungs on the ladder of humanity to me.
    When this type of thing is uncovered the rats start leaving the ship………..
    Off with their heads.Both of them.

  2. One Op Says:

    Zelda, you said everything I would want to. Thanks!!

  3. One Op Says:

    OOPs! How did I get to be such a monster. I want my devil ID back!!

  4. zelda Says:

    The board of trustees fired him…………..as they should have.

  5. Honeydog Says:

    I was just about to answer the Question when, besides Zelda’s last Comment, I heard it confirmed on the News.
    This entire Criminal COVER-UP— for FIFTEEN YEARS— was and is INEXCUSABLE, and each and every one of them who was AWARE, and did NOTHING, are equally Guilty and deserve to lose their Jobs and be dragged through the Dirt of the Penn State Campus. Further, it made me sick to watch the STUDENTS of this highly-revered University rally around Paterno in Protest of the “unfairness of Tarnishing his Name”… and that “the Media is to blame”— Where do THEIR Morals and Values Coach” is no match for the LOSS OF INNOCENCE of the young Boys he himself had a Hand in permitting to be Victimized. It could have— and should have— stopped after ONE… but No… couldn’t “Shame” the Penn State Name. Well, guess what— They all failed miserably, and it’s Pathetic that the Students don’t seem to realize that their beloved Coach and Team Officials let THEM down. Where is the Thought and ralling-around for the young Lives who are REALLY “Tarnished” forever in all this. In any case, there was a definite Legal and Moral Obligation here, and while Paterno claims that he “followed the Chain of Command”, he obviously knew that nothing was being done to Reprimand the Perpitrator, and the lack of appropriate Action and choosing to Sweep it under the Carpet— by ALL involved— more than Justifies the Personal and Legal Consequences they all deserve and should face.

  6. Honeydog Says:

    (I don’t know what happened up there… part of a Sentence disappeared (It was there when I typed it).

    After “the Media is to blame”, it’s supposed to read: “Where do THEIR Morals and Values lie??! The loss of a “Legendary Coach” is no match….” etc

  7. Honeydog Says:

    Hey Zelda, OneOp, Sandy, etc…
    Are you following the “Baby Lisa” Case?
    What about Dr. Murray being Convicted in the Michael Jackson Trial?
    Interested in what you think about either or both….

  8. One Op Says:

    Honeydog, Very good thoughts on PSU. Some people will sell their soul to keep a lid on. I truly don’t know what is going on with men that they have such desires as to mess with young boys but it is really scary overall with what’s going on in the world and it all seems to be just rolling over into “acceptable”. I’m speaking of all kinds of behavior against innocence. We all know very well horrible crimes against children are going on all the time. A child can not be a child anymore and that is what I call mass murder. In our system
    that is supposed to be leaders, mentors, and of character we would want our children to be are some of the most sick and less likely to be exposed. I sure am glad this bunch at PSU are ousted, and I believe there are more who need to be.

    When an entertainer with talents has to go to such extremes to be idolized, pushing their bodies beyond natural capabilities they are not true entertainers. Michael Jackson was as cute as a button and I could accept the first cosmetic procedure, it enhanced instead of damage, but to need to go to the extreme he did, was freakish. He did not need that, and it did nothing for his performances, so I ask why???? The whole scenario with Dr. Murray and his use of such a dangerous drug is wrong, I don’t care how famous, how much they could pay for it, or what. I do believe Michael had some of the responsibility himself for demanding such treatments, and who would say no to MJ?? However, I believe Dr. Murray, having become used to doing this for MJ. became lax in the routine and it all just happened. He should never have left him alone, and then suggest MJ did it to himself. I don’t believe that. I do not believe Dr. Murray deliberately killed MJ. I wonder about the children that witnessed his use of drug induced sleeps in order to perform. Is that what talent is, pushing the body beyond its natural endurance?
    Dr. Murray will get his license back in time.

    Baby Lisa, someone needs to prove to me that the father doesn’t know what happened to this darling baby. He shows no emotion!
    But then there was Haleigh Cummings father who went to his knees with tears, (for himself) and I believe he knew exactly what happened to Haleigh. Back to little Lisa believe someone adjusted the screen in trying to make it “look like” someone came into the home, but didn’t do a good job of it. Fingerprints? There should have been some fingerprints if someone really came in and wandered around the house “with the lights on”? and if someone came into the home they must have known the mother would not wake up while they did their thing. How about that, did someone put something into the mothers wine so she would sleep? With these thoughts, I believe the mom and dad both know what happened to Baby Lisa.

    Of course these are just thoughts running through my head.
    As many different thoughts are running through many other heads.

    How about the 2yr old boy, his mother left him in a car along side the road while she took her 4yr old with her. Said the 2yr old was sick and she was on her way to the hospital. WOW! It must not be legal to question the 4yr old without the parents consent but surely the 4yr old would know if her mother left her little brother alone in a car along side the road. Geez, what next!!!!

  9. One Op Says:

    I made some typographical errors, but I can’t go back and change.
    Sorry!

  10. zelda Says:

    I believe Micheal’s dad was the root of his odd actions with his plastic surgeries and pedophilic tendencies.He was a terrible task master and screwed up all of his kids pushing them as “moneymakers”.The Mom caved in to him so she was little or no help.In other words the old man was and is a tyrant………..Someone should have slapped down old Joe a long time ago. Micheal was too damaged and fought with that damage until his death via drugs and other things he needed to keep going. All of the Jackson kids are mentally beaten down by old Joe……..none of them have ever “told” the real story fully.
    The doctors were dazzled by his fame and money and again greed took over. for them too…………So if there is a star in the blame game I vote for old Joe………..he is a real bastard.I hate that these bastards get protected!!!!!!!!!!
    Dr Murray is another greedy guy that got caught in the sad spiral of Micheal’s life.The “doctor” in this saga could have been anyone because there had to be one in this scenario. No excuses mind you for him……just a given.I think he is a piece of slime……..GREEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL AROUND. BEGINNING WITH A HEARTLESS CONTROLLING MONEY HUNGRY FATHER WHO SHOULD IN MY MIND BE IN PRISON FOR CHILD ABUSE.

  11. zelda Says:

    hmmmmmmmm as for the Baby Lisa case , I am not sure what happened.maybe the mom got drunk and rolled onto the baby in bed and accidently smothered her or the dad was an abuser and killed her etc. etc………………but in any case it looks like the parents to me….no one else to look at really. They ALL have a story these child killers…………some are convincing and some are just nuts. Too bad just anyone can have children…..

  12. zelda Says:

    The latest story about the two year old left in the car is to me completely transparent.The mom as the information comes out ,was bi-polar and whacked and the dad was trying to get the kids .Looks to me like she killed the boy days earlier and he was never in that damn car.My mind goes to that poor four year old sibling. What a horror for that child. I hope some pin head has taken that child from the mother in the midst of all of this.
    I tell you I am just agog at all this famicide stuff………makes you just want to line up all the child killers and toss the pellet.
    What a world.

  13. Honeydog Says:

    OneOp and Zelda, you two sure came through with some heavy Thoughts! Although all three of those Subjects are, yet again, more Tragic Topics in the News, they spark our Interest, and it’s enjoyable to share our Opinions. I Thank You for yours, and as much as I want to respond, I got on the Computer a little late and can’t spend the time it would take, so I’ll be back later, okay?

  14. zelda Says:

    ok Honeydoggie.

  15. zelda Says:

    This Penn State thing is going very weird .The missing D A is off the charts in drama and intrigue.
    All of this …………ALL of this is because of that sandusky bastard raping boys………..for gawds sake!!!!! What drives a man (loose term) to rape little boys??What the hell is it?
    Makes me literally sick……….
    to be continued………..

  16. zelda Says:

    Ya know Honeydog..you said OneOp and I came up with some heavy thoughts.well YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS we did! The things going on are BEYOND heavy for gawds sake………..no time for anything else in my opinion.I don’t want to over think it and dissect it and ramble on about the whys of all this social suicide we are going through,,,,,,,,time for straight action based on innate understanding of right and wrong.The ABC’S of humanity for gawds sake. Enough already!

  17. One Op Says:

    Veteran’s Day, Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen of all the USA services. I fear that many are not a compliment to everything you have fought and served for of our country. Many are!

  18. Tom Says:

    Nice to be remembered One Op. Thanks!

  19. One Op Says:

    Tom, I am ashamed I did not remember until I turned on my tv late in the day and then, seeing another comment, became a copy cat. I sincerely regret having the fault of forgetting this day approaching.

    Everyday is a day to be respectful of our Veterans and all those currently in service.

  20. zelda Says:

    I can never express my feelings of thanks strongly enough for our veterans………….my respect is off the charts for these men.Thank you Tom and all of you that give your all.

  21. zelda Says:

    I meant to say men and women………….thank you

  22. Honeydog Says:

    Dear Zelda and OneOp…
    Although I was aware, and there were some really nice Special Presentations that I watched on TV for Veterans Day, I too inadvertantly skipped-over making mention of it here and expressing my Thoughts and Appreciation to those whose Day it was. Some of those TV Specials were really Touching and Eye-opening— even one that Honored some of the 300 Canines that worked alongside the Military during the Search and Rescue Operation of 9/11. You just don’t realize what has and does go on out there every day, and I almost think that setting-aside only one to bring it to the forefront and remind us of the Courage, Spirit, Dedication, and Sacrifices of our Service Men and Women is not nearly enough. Anyway, I Salute them, one and all, far and wide, both living and gone, with the greatest and sincerest Admiration, Respect and Gratitude for all they have done and continue to do in humble, unseen Silence to our Eyes and Ears. God Bless them.

  23. Honeydog Says:

    (Be back again on the other stuff….)

  24. Sandy Says:

    WOW took a long time 2 get to the bottom of this page today! Awesome remarks from you all! 1st off Veterans day THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!!! You are all my HERO’s!!!As for this horendous (?) scandal that is rocking PENN State–disturbing- very disturbing! How do you get away with this for that long? Baby Lisa’s case-I hate 2 say it BUT I think drunk little mommy definately had something TO DO WITH THIS-pOSSIBLY WAS AN ACCIDENT,but then THE COVER-UP

  25. Sandy Says:

    Sorry my comuter locked up
    So about the cover-up(my words)I think she may have passed out on the baby & smothered her,then had some help getting her out and disappearing..
    As for Dr.Murray I think he got what he deserved.. $$$$ was all he saw.Not a life BUT worried about who or what he can have with all the cash M.J. would be giving him monthly!!!!

  26. Sugel Says:

    Sandusky, architect of the “Linebacker U.” defenses, was charged last weekend with sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years. The athletic director and a university vice president were charged with perjury and failure to report a 2002 allegation to police, and Paterno was fired following mounting fury he did not do more about the charge — that Sandusky assaulted a boy in the Penn State football showers — than pass it along to his bosses. President Graham Spanier also was ousted for similar reasons.

  27. Eye Floaters Says:

    This is an absolutely inexusible case. No room on the planet for these type of people.

  28. mercadee Says:

    It will be a debate for years, and history will decide whether the enduring image will be that of Paterno surrounded by all those reporters as he hurried to practice this week, or his signature look on the sidelines.


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