Casey Anthony: No Private Meeting With Prosecutors For Judge Strickland
Judge Stan Strickland has ruled that he will review materials that have come into the possession of local law enforcement himself.
The prosecution had hoped that they could meet with the Judge privately to discuss the materials but he has decided against this.
Makes no difference to me 
Let’s just get to the case so we can get some official evidence so we can have a good discussion on the facts!
From the Orlando Sentinel:
Strickland wrote in his order that the state can file a sealed request that explains why the judge should delay the release of the information to the defense and the public and how long that delay should last.
“We understand the courts directive and we will abide by them,” said the State Attorney’s Office spokesman Randy Means.
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February 17, 2010 at 6:37 pm
John~~I understood that Judge Strickland denied the ex parte but the prosecution can request an in camera to review this information. Ex parte and in camera are two different things. I am so curious as to what information/material the prosecution wants to delay handing over to the defense.
February 17, 2010 at 9:16 pm
I’m sure a lot of people want to know. It’s interesting…that’s for sure!
February 18, 2010 at 12:46 am
I think the Judge made the right Decision. I like the Idea that, whatever it is he’s going to review— which is apparently something Big— it’s done within Solitude and without Interference. Better Control over things that way. I’m on the Edge of my Seat too, to hear this Secret! (I think). Bad? Good?……
February 18, 2010 at 7:36 am
I’m just wondering…the differences between a private meeting with the judge, and the judge getting handed in paper form all that the State was going to present while at the meeting.
In some ways, there is no difference. Private info from the State will reach the judge who will handle it with discretion.
However, as Honeydog pointed out, the judge can handle the info with solitude if there’s no meeting. Also, it makes the judge sound more impartial with the defense.
If I were the judge, I’d want that meeting. I would think that the info could be shared quicker than reading a stack of papers. We all know that lawyers can’t present even a “Hello” within a 1,000 words.
February 18, 2010 at 8:38 am
What is the point in having a blog about this case if it is just a repeat of what is printed in the news? I though you said this blog was about your thoughts. Having read your blog, being a follower of this case, I would hope you could come up with something you wrote rather than a synopsis of what has already been written by others.
February 18, 2010 at 10:24 am
You guys are missing the debate today:
http://americaspeaksink.com/2010/02/new-name-for-casey-anthony/comment-page-1/#comment-4183
February 18, 2010 at 10:28 am
The blog isn’t just about this case.
Frankly, I’d rather write about other topics. The stories get posted so others can see what’s out there in the news and have a place that if they choose to, they can discuss. They can also follow links to the original articles and post comments there. I’m not about how many hits I can get or anything like that. I like to have people stop by, say hi and leave their thoughts and comments
February 18, 2010 at 10:28 am
…and thanks for stopping by
February 18, 2010 at 10:58 am
Herebunnybunny, John has many topics of interest. His blog is great and one reason many of us prefer it is because of the polite people here and how he is ever so aware that comments that are not polite do blogs no good. A neat place to express an opinion and ideas without insulting others. I speak for myself of course.
February 18, 2010 at 11:27 am
Aww thanks OneOp.
I’ll admit, my blog is different than most other places. I give my opinions and an insight into my thoughts on many posts. The Casey/Caylee Anthony case, I don’t really. The reason: I want to see evidence that is presented in a court of law, not just the media and court of public opinion.
I’ve shared my thoughts that I believe Casey Anthony is guilty. But, this is based on information I’ve read or seen on TV. Once the trial begins (whenever that may be) you’ll see a lot more thoughts and opinions.
I’d like to see the actual evidence, though.
February 18, 2010 at 11:40 am
Ideas-Judge Strickland at one time in the past advised Mr Baez that there was no privision for exparte under the Florida Criminal code. I am of the understanding that in camera request applies only to deposing a category B witness.
I doubt very much if Mr Ashton wants to surprise anyone but more importantly to keep the flow of information/discovery flowing without compromising his case or a fair rendering of the law and its outcomes for both sides. I do not believe our system is as adversarial as many would believe.
February 18, 2010 at 11:48 am
Ideas, et al-If you will Google:
State of Florida’s Motion to Strike Defense Witness List.pdf you will see the reference to exparte as well as a citation relative to Cat A, Cat B witnessess. The defense had none when that Motion was filed.
February 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm
What is / could be the reason the prosecution wants things kept from the defense?
February 18, 2010 at 5:13 pm
No one really knows but those who put forth the Motion. I would speculate that someone has come forward with information to LE and they in turn turned it over to the DA. The DA wants Judge Strickland to see it first before anyone else simply because they are trying to err on the side of caution. The last thing Judge Strickland wants is some screw up which could further delay the eventual trial. It’s his job to see that things go as smoothly as possible both during pretrial as well as during the trial.It could be discovery that they have been holding onto for quite some time.
February 19, 2010 at 12:43 am
It will also make the defense rather nervous I suppose.
February 19, 2010 at 2:22 am
What you said last *Boston*, is just what I think too. Something new, which could also be old, is “Stewing in the Pot”, and I’d still rather see Strickland stirring it by himself, and without a “Timer” ticking. He’s the highest-form of “Lawyer”, more than quite-capable of reading and understanding the Cookbook, without the rest of the Cooks in the Kitchen.
P.S. to *INA*: Been missing you… Good to hear you back!
February 19, 2010 at 8:00 am
Ina I just visited your blog. I love your varied conversations, videos that you and your friends share and especially your most recent video of your hometown. How beautifully colorful. Just like paintings.
February 19, 2010 at 8:56 am
Honeydog-I think that whatever final report was submitted to the DAs office must have had some very compelling/credible evidence possibly against Casey (forensic report? fingerprint on duct tape? Mr Ashton felt that the defense should not see it until Judge Strickland saw it first so I can only assume/speculate that it might be a JVM “BLOCKBUSTER” moment.
February 20, 2010 at 2:05 am
*Boston*: I do hope it’s something along those lines, and not something which would suddenly alter The Prosecution’s Case— ya know, like something the Opposite, to cause them to back-off. Nah…. YOU’RE right…. You just GOTTA be! Not even going there!
February 20, 2010 at 6:02 am
Honeydog-I know exactly what you mean. I looked at the FDLE (Florida Department of Law Enforcement) website and found the definition of Category “B” witnesses. They are witnesses who may be deposed upon court approval.
They can range from simply being a lab tach, a property owner, transporting officials, records or evidence custodians and witnesses who are not typically deposed. The experts that appear in this capacity often times answer routine questions. These types of witnesses are asked to tell the court about their education and ongoing practice in the field etc. They keep their CVs current, etc.
FDLE:RCrP3.220(b)(1)(a)(ii)
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I will give the link to the full explanation of who is a Cat B witness.
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/OGC/Legal-Bulletins/1b9602_9-24.aspx.
February 20, 2010 at 6:58 am
herebunnybunny-You can go to a lot of blogs and they will offer up their analysis of the case. Some are trained scientist and fine writers like Valhall over at The Hinky Meter. The folks over at Trials and Tribulations are truly awesome especially when they are following a case that you are interested in. The Christian Science Monitor is absolutely a terrific place to read and post. They did a fantastic job on the Amanda Knox case. Bill Shaeffer and Lillian Glass are experts in their field and offer up analysis and insights that are both entertaining and insightful.
At WordPress or at least the Blogs that pop up on the Casey/Caylee Anthony Front Page are a mix of different writers who have their unique writing styles, analysis and temperament. I think what’s important is to find places where you can share ideas, opinions and another way of looking at the evidence without fear of being slammed by the Blog owners and his/her posters. Some blogs are just trash and some others are “Members Only”. At the end of the day you will find many places where you can post and share something new but you won’t find the welcome you get at Kreuzer33 anywhere else.
February 20, 2010 at 8:21 am
Hi OneOp and honeydog thanks!
I agree on Valhall being really scientific about this murdercase. He or she is the best on that issue I think. (is Valhall a man or a woman?)
It is amazing how much is known about what they have on circ. evidence and such in this case. I sometimes read something and start wondering what will happen, what has happened. Not always easy to express what I think. From really not feeling well about reading discussions about a crime suspect on the web, till actually doing so myself has cost me about a year I think lol.
Let’s hope the truth about Caylee Anthony’s death will be clarified, that is what matters. The criminal (s) responsable found is the second issue. It probably is Casey. Personally I hope the dp wont’t be a part of this all. Life time in prison is severe enough?
Since I haven’t read anything about the case for days, I might have missed some new developments. It looks as if the defense is losing their people. Will Baez end his work for the defense soon? He is not qualified to do dp trials I read.
Judge Strickland has an important task and the fact that he doesn’t want the prosecution to discuss the evidence privately at least gives the idea he is neutral. Which is good for a fair trial?
Now we may think this evidence must be important, but perhaps it is not really. We will just have to wait and see.
John, I still like your blog.
February 20, 2010 at 10:11 am
Ina- As we all know Casey Anthony implicated a babysitter in the kidnapping/abduction of her daughter Caylee. This Nanny/babysitter spent an inordinate amount of time with Caylee-days, nights and on weekends. Casey assured her parents and friends who inquired about Caylee that she was at the beach and other places and always in the loving care of Zanny. Even when Zanny was in the hospital there was always someone else in the background willing and able to care for Caylee if need be.
When Mr and Mrs Anthony had Casey’s car in their garage they should have called the police and repoted both Casey and Caylee as missing persons and alerted police to the smell of decomposition in the trunk. That is what concerned and distraught parents do.
They did so much harm to both Casey and Caylee by going along with her story. Had they thought just for once not to go along with and be manipulated by Casey perhaps things would have been different.
No matter how badly I feel about what happened to Caylee Anthony, I still believe that Casey deserved the very best defense. She is a sick person. She suffers from a grotesque mental defect and she needs to be taken off the streets of Orlando forever. There was no reason to drag out the process. We know she acted alone and with malice aforethought.
Right now she’s looking at 23 hours a day in solitary confinement. This is inhumane. Why would any good lawyer walk his client into the courtroom with that as a possible outcome? She deserves LIFE and not the opportunity to suck the LIFE out of unsuspecting, decent law abiding citizens.
February 20, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Thanks Boston
February 20, 2010 at 7:25 pm
..oops and thank you too Ina
February 20, 2010 at 11:25 pm
*Boston*: Besides your valid Points in your 2nd and 3rd Paragraphs of your last Comment, what I still find unbelievable to this day, is that, little Caylee was the Love of George and Cindy’s Lives, and, Cindy, especially, was so Protective of her, and yet— for alot of the time she was alive, they didn’t even have “The Babysitter’s” Telephone Number (Cindy later claimed she did during Morgan’s Deposition, but I don’t believe it), and neither she or George ever met, saw, or talked to, “The Babysitter”. As you say… caring, involved, and responsible Parents (and loving Grandparents with whom the Grandchild lives) would definitely want, and have, the usual Information and frequent Contact with the person with whom the Child is spending “Days” and “Nights”. Their lack of knowing this simple, yet extremely Important part of “Normal Procedure” within an apparently
“Close-Knit” Household, still makes me throw my Hands in the air and say (Please Pardon my French) “WTF”?!
Perhaps if they had both been as “Aggressive” back then, as they’ve been showing themselves to be since, things might be different also.
February 21, 2010 at 6:06 am
Honeydog-From the moment that Mr and Mrs Anthony picked up the car at Johnson’s towyard they knew something very bad had happened. Calling Zanny the Nanny would never have crossed their mind because they knew that Casey did not hand her daughter off to anyone but them. They knew that when they couldn’t care for her that Caylee was with Casey. (Tony, Ricardo and Jesse were three who admitted they had relations with her while Caylee was there in the home).Friends and acquaintences saw Caylee asleep while at parties, in harms way and without supervision on countless occasions.
It was amazing to me that Cindy allowed Casey to tell her Nanny story to the police all the while the smell of decomposition is now throughout the home. I believe this short window of time and under the worst of conditions Cindy was truly in denial.
Within 24 hours she was telling the local media that the smell was pizza and this remark signaled to Casey that Mom was on her side-doing what she always did when Casey went off the reservation-defend her. When it wasn’t possible to defend the Nanny story Cindy started to tell anyone who would listen that she was receiving calls about sightings. No one ever sighted Caylee with anyone who resembled Zanny the Nanny.
The ultimate logical inconsistency and the most heartbreaking comment Cindy ever made about the babysitter theory was that the person who killed her granddaughter was a “10″. Instead of just saying I never saw you before or I never believed my daughter had a Nanny, she dismisssed Ms Gonselez as a potential child killer because she just wasn’t pretty enough.
Why didn’t Cindy get Casey the help that Lee had? D.Fanning’s boook mentions his serious depression while a high schooler.Treating her anxiety and depression might have helped. Like a lot of things, we’ll never know for sure.
February 21, 2010 at 6:27 am
If Caylee was ever on the beach with a nanny I am sure people would have phoned the police by now saying they saw them. People make pics on the beach. But I also heard not many people are aware of the case (those people who claim it won’t be a problem to find a jury). Perhaps someone has a pic of Caylee & the nanny on the beach and isn’t aware of it… Hm. Check your snapshots!
February 21, 2010 at 6:53 am
Ina-Wouldn’t Mr Baez be in seventh heaven if that ever happened. It’s hard to be in heaven though when you’ve got the client from hell.
February 21, 2010 at 7:39 am
No one ever saw Caylee and the nanny anywhere. No friends of Casey saw her?
What happend to mr Sheaffers site, I can’t log in somehow. Has he baked another cake, or has he answered questions already? He is spreading himself very thin. He is not likely to evaporate, is he?
Oops, John, you are welcome
February 21, 2010 at 9:10 am
I asked a question over at Bill Shaeffer’s Blog prior to Valentine’s Day and have never returned. I anticipate reading his next article as it pops up on the WordPress’ front page.
February 22, 2010 at 1:27 am
*Boston* (RE Feb 21 @ 6:06): Yes, in a round-about way, that’s what I mean. Not “Keeping Tabs”— yet claiming how “Close” they were, and Lying under Oath, and to LE, and to the Public, etc— covering for Knowledge they didn’t really possess at all. I agree, and thought-so early on, that they both definitely knew that Casey had done something Bad with Caylee— the day they brought the Car home, Cindy even told George while standing in the Garage, “We’ve lost her”. The Comment I myself found as the “ultimate inconsistency” was Cindy’s statement that Caylee always talked about “Zanny’s Dog”…… Yet George adamantly confirmed that even the mention of the name “Zanny” to Caylee never produced any response or reaction from her whatsoever. I believe that it couldn’t have taken the Authorities long to figure this Family out, and it IS a Shame, above all for Caylee, that The Anthonys obviously overlooked so many Questionable little things and Warning Signs going-on right under their Noses.
February 22, 2010 at 9:50 am
We will never know what Mr and Mrs Anthony were thinking when they went to the towyard but we can assess to some degree their emotional state.
They knew that Caylee was dead and wanted to know straight away what happened. They didn’t call police because they knew that Casey had the answer to that question. Had they found the car without the smell of decomposition perhaps they would have called the police and finally reported Caylee missing. Because that was not the case, what Cindy had to do was find a way to break Casey. The irony of stopping at a closed police station and demanding to know what happened did’t work. Instead of calling the police and reporting that she had found her daughter and that she would not tell her what happened to Caylee she reports that she wants her daughter arrested for stealing money. Casey never offered a word of comfort to her mother nor the truth about what happened to Caylee.
When she asked Lee to try to get information out of Casey he walked away with “a fried brain”. He was done. Casey started crying and came up with a story that no one could believe and which was flawed from the outset. It landed her in jail within 24 hours. The story she told LE didn’t help Cindy. She was desparate for answers.
On August 13, 2008 Mr and Mrs Anthony finally knew that Casey killed Caylee. They were not in denial but imo played mind games with Casey until she revealed who she really was and what she had done. It was a sad and unforgiving moment but imo that jailhouse video proved to me that they finally knew that Casey was in fact a murderer. They visited her when they knew that Jose would not be in town. They hammered her for answers and they got what they needed.
They knew the minute they went to the towyard that someone was dead. When Amy told Cindy that Casey was over at Tony’s (and without Caylee) Cindy knew she was smelling the remains of her beloved granddaughter.
February 22, 2010 at 10:58 am
Boston/Honeydog, I have always had a need to know more about the June 15th confrontation at home within the family, and can not recall anything about Caylee having being there witnessing it all. I would imagine that even at 2-1/2 it would have been most traumatic for her and she would have been fearful to have been in the house at the time. Also, are you convinced that George did as well as can be expected on describing the morning of 16th as Casey and Caylee left.
February 22, 2010 at 3:04 pm
OneOp-I think way back to the time when Casey couldn’t remember what day Caylee was abducted/kidnapped. Cindy had a difficult time remembering when she last saw Caylee. When the police went to the Nursing Home and interviewed those that might have seen Cindy and Caylee they found out through the visitotr’s log that both were there on Father’s Day. Of course there was the home video which more than likely was time stamped.
Perhaps the difficulty in remembering the day might have been because they couldn’t reconcile the day they had the fight and the day Caylee went missing. Were they two separate days-one just a fight and one the actual day the child went missing after fight number two?
I think the fight might have been on the June 9 and according to The Hinky Meter, Valhall’s reasoning is based on what Caylee might have told Cindy the morning after. Ricardo states in his interview that both Casey and Caylee spent the night at his apartment on June 9, 2008. Possibly, once Caylee arrived home and out of earshot of Casey, Cindy questioned where she had gone and where she slept.
Perhaps Caylee said too much. Was her response to Cindy the reason Cindy said that Casey was an unfit mother during the fight on Father’s Day?
IMO George and Cindy exposed what they didn;t see on the morning of the 16 July by their statements in an interview with Greta von Susteran in mid July or early August. They must have given a similar statement to OCSD and the FBI. The question is a good one because now we have evidence that disproves the idea that anyone but the killer saw Caylee on July 16, 2008. George did not describe the clothes that were found at the final resting place. Both Cindy and George confused what type of white shoe Caylee was wearing-one said a sandle and one said a sneaker.
Cindy never mentioned that Caylee’s Winnie the Poo blanket was gone nor did she say that she missed her laundry bag. I would have been looking all over the place for it. I would have been surprised if a blanket which matched the other things in the crib was gone. (I am the type of person who hunted down Barbie’s shoes before I went to bed!)
Certainly both Cindy and George are observable neatnix and they must have come home on the 16th and seen that someone had been there and in the chaos of this terrible event there had to be things out of place. They may not have thought very much about it then but upon reflection surely they must have had reason to pause and think about that day. Why tell Greta “It could have been worse. She could have been arrested for murder” during the interview? I used quotes for effect but I know as I write this that it is not correct. I will try to find a proper link for you. Read Valhall’s Blog-just fantastic analysis on your very insightful question.
February 22, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Boston, thank you, I enjoy your writing very much and did have a very interesting read at Valhall’s today, planning on more.
February 23, 2010 at 3:05 am
*Boston*: Everything you covered are points that have been clear to me also, but, there’s one thing, in your 6th Paragraph, which, I’m positive, is not what I remember. To my disadvantage, I can not recall on what Show..News Clip..etc, that Cindy was followed by Camera into Caylee’s room, and, while showing the Crib, the Camera scanned the “Winnie-the-Pooh” Sheets and Pillow Case, and she stated that she was the one who bought the Set, and, as she was walking out of the room, she stated that she didn’t know where the Blanet was. The Reporter repeated what she said, in Question-form, and she replied, No, I can’t find it. As for the Date-in-Time of that Footage, again, I’m at a loss, but, I do know that it could only have been after Caylee was found and the items with her had been anncounced, as it was one of the prominent “Stand-outs” of my yelling-back at the TV with the words “Now we know where it is”. That clip was only ever shown once, and I believe now that The Defense, especially, realized the Damning effects of it, had it “Pulled” from airing again, and hoped that, in its brief one-time spot, people would forget about it— there was alot, if not Chaos, going on at the time with the Story. But I remember it well, sticking-out in my Mind as “Cindy’s Slip-up”, as well as, mysteriously, the mention of it being absent rather quickly afterward from any News Coverage. By the way, this is not to be confused with those several other “Interviews” where Cindy took us into Caylee’s room and showed the waiting Christmas Presents and the Dogs roaming-around “missing her”. Anyway, pretty incriminating among all the other little things we’ve “caught” along the way from The Anthonys. Just thought I’d bring it up when it hit me again after reading your Comment. So, what about you? Any recollection of this?
February 23, 2010 at 6:50 am
Honeydog-Yes, I recall Cindy showing the reporter Casey’s room. I remember that she showed Greta everything in her room but I did not, to the best of my recollection, hear her say that she purchased the Winnie the Poo set. I recall a clip of Cindy walking out of the room with a young, blond, female reporter and I vaguely recall Cindy saying something about Winnie the Poo but cannot recall it like you have.
In these situations, when one recalls something clearly even if all the details are not “spot on” they are to be taken credibly. You are “thin slicing” your recall and that would indicate to me that you saw what you saw and heard what you heard. Malcolm Gladwell is one of my favorite writers on these things. I will tell you a little more about thin slicing and how you “blinked” some other time. What you should try to remember that you will not do this often but you must rely on it when it’s important. I do not think it has anything to do with your ability to create the most interesting metaphors though. Am I funny yet?
In the meantime I will try to hunt up that video. See if you can as well. I am not a computer geek but I try.
February 23, 2010 at 6:58 am
OneOp-I saw that huge post and thought, Thank goodness I attached your name to it. When I see those long posts I end up reading the first paragraph and scan to the end and see if I can get the gist in the closing. Thank you for reading it and hopefully my summary of Val’s thoughts were accurate. When they start talking about computers my eyes glaze over. I’m bad.
Can you see if you can help find that video where Cindy said she couldn’t find the Winnie the Poo blanket? I think she said that in July.
February 23, 2010 at 10:10 am
Boston-Honeydog, I do remember the room when the camera scan showed Winnie The Poo items, because it satisfied me that Caylee did indeed have that set, It must have been after Caylee was found, otherwise I would not have been impressed.
I do not remember anything Cindy said about it, or when.
I sure wish I had paid closer attention to everything reported in the very beginning Just never dreamed all the uncertainties could be used to delay this trial because it has been so obvious that no one but Casey had Caylee from the hour she last left the home with her.
I thought it would be over with in a hurry after Casey mentioned the “properties” Zanadia-Gonzalez, and Caylee was actually found in that same area. “Close to home” why that is not deemed as being a confession really bothers me. I will move around and see if I come upon that video re: the blanket.
February 23, 2010 at 9:49 pm
All I can find in regards to the video of Caylee’s room/Winnie The Poo Blanket may
be foung in Greta Van Sursten (sp) archives # 229620 but still I did not come upon the video itself. I think I did read that Cindy supposedly never mentioned the blanket until after Caylee was found.
February 26, 2010 at 2:30 am
*Boston* & *OneOp*: Having brought-up what I did, I can not rise to my own Defense in any additional way, although I tried searching too. It’s “one of those things”, you know, that you’re certain-of, and you can’t, for the Life of you, produce the Proof in Tangible form. Very frustrating. But *OneOp*, your last sentence above DOES touch-upon it— Cindy DID mention the Blanket… and yes, it WAS after Caylee was found, and the Blanket had been named among the list of articles with her. I don’t know what you “read”, but I’m sure you would remember if it continued to say that Cindy didn’t know where the Blanket was, leading me to believe that the rest of the story was purposely eliminated. As for that Footage, I honestly don’t know how, but I’m sure there must be ways to prevent access to certain stuff in certain cases. I know it doesn’t help at all, but I can’t do any better than resorting to this conclusion. Sorry. Perhaps this “Cindy’s Slip-up”, as I call it, will be revealed in part of the Trial. For my own sake, that would be a Plus.